From Patch Readers: Keep SMART Moving
One Patch reader hopes the Sonoma Marin Area Rail Transit agency will be able to bring a commuter rail to Marin soon.
Dear Editor,
A small minority of outspoken people say they are outraged over plans to fund the SMART train and path for pedestrians and cyclists. Some are especially incensed over the path. This is odd, because a sidewalk is hardly a radical concept.
Neither is a train. Logically, these critics should also be outraged over the chance to provide efficient public transit along the 101 corridor for everyone—including youth and elders who do not drive, and people who cannot afford a car. They should be outraged about the chance to reduce car traffic and car crashes, curtail large ugly parking lots, and improve air quality. But logic is not their strong suit.
Clay Mitchell of the "Repeal SMART" campaign protests that "Taxpayer money is being spent at an alarming rate." But "alarming" is a relative concept. Large public works projects are expensive. Their cost is usually justified on the basis of public need.
Compare the SMART project's estimated $380 million cost with the $921 million for six recent and pending improvements to Highway 101 in Marin and Sonoma. Of that total, $154 million is either already spent or already funded, while the rest—$767 million—awaits funding.
SMART has already presented a sound, balanced budget. Let’s get moving.
-Elisabeth from Mill Valley
Rick Fraites
10:39 am on Wednesday, August 17, 2011
I would suggest to 'Elisabeth (Someone) from Mill Valley' to please stay tuned. We will soon discover just how 'minor' the number of 'outspoken' people are out there.
Logic (and SMART'S own numbers) tells me that SMART will have a minuscule impact on the reduction of auto traffic during the commute hours...and will cost hundreds of millions of tax dollars to achieve these underwhelming numbers.
Michael
4:57 pm on Wednesday, August 17, 2011
Minor numbers against SMART? 30% of the voters said "NO" to this the last time it was on the ballot. 70% voted "YES". And all of us who voted did so based on what we now know was at best bad or inaccurate financial information and at worst 'flat our lies' used to get the 70% YES vote. Using Elisabeth's 'logic' if 30% is so 'minor' then the 21% additional votes we need to get to a 51% majority to overturn this is really minor isn't it? And if you are going to stay current with the discussion Elisabeth at least update your numbers because they are increasing. Mr. Mansourian has already revised the numbers upwards of $404M and many challenge this as being off by 10s of millions (too low). So I might ask those that continue to blindly say that they support SMART given the dramatic and never ending increases in the real cost, "At what cost would you vote against this?" Do you believe this kind of limited rail service is good at any cost to taxpayers? Why isn't our tax money going into expanding our current bus system if there is such a pressing need as the SMART supporters indicate?
Clay Mitchell
11:35 am on Wednesday, August 17, 2011
Hi Elisabeth-
Your comments look quite familiar- very much like the letter you submitted to the IJ on Aug. 15th. Instead of replying again, I'll simply provide the link to those comments:
http://www.marinij.com/opinion/ci_18671932
And when you get a moment, I would appreciate an answer to my question...
For those who don't care to read the entire response, I'll summarize it here:
I find it ironic that a letter criticizing the logical underpinnings of our argument is based heavily on the creation of a straw-man argument, which in and of itself is a logical fallacy.
When I consider the effectiveness of a project, I do so in relation to the number of people that will benefit from the expenditure. To me, this seems like a reasonable way to measure the effectiveness of a proposed solution.
Using this measuring stick, SMART doesn't even come close to the freeway widening in cost per user- it is at least 10 times more costly on a per user basis.
Turns out that maybe logic IS our strong suit....
Elisabeth Thomas-Matej
3:51 pm on Thursday, August 18, 2011
Clay, like you, I advocate the "maximum benefit to the maximum number of taxpayers and other citizens." But we are approaching the topic from different information bases.
Direct comparison between expected train ridership and car trips is invalid, because car travel is a notoriously inefficient transportation mode. This weakness has been recognized since the 1920s, when traffic engineering was a new profession.
Highway systems force everyone to buy, fuel, insure, repair, and find parking for a car. That huge private expenditure is not even acknowledged in calculations for public highway systems. Further, cars spend most of their time parked, idly taking up space.
Car sharing programs such as ZipCar are more efficient than private ownership, but mass transit is still the standard for efficiency. Trains and buses are shared vehicles with high capacity--far higher than so-called high-occupancy vehicles (carpools). A complete system can provide almost door-to-door service, such as in New York City and in many small-scale European cities.
Car travel remains the most dangerous transportation mode. Fatal and nonfatal injury costs related to motor vehicle accidents in the U.S. exceeded a staggering $99 billion in 2005. The public pays for 75% of those costs through insurance premiums, taxes, and travel delays.(1)
Despite great improvements in road engineering and vehicle design over the past 50 years, about 34,000 people a year die (continued)
Elisabeth Thomas-Matej
3:52 pm on Thursday, August 18, 2011
...in motor vehicle accidents in the U.S. (Insurance Institute for Highway Safety). That’s tenfold the deaths from 9/11--annually. Yet, few question the carnage. Teens and young adults 15-24 are 28% of the victims but only 14% of the population.
It's not just that fewer people die on trains, because we have fewer trains. Rather, rail travel is inherently safer. If the U.S. had no cars, the estimated maximum annual deaths at current mileages would be 810 persons.(2)
Nonfatal injuries are two orders of magnitude higher--about 3.7 million people a year (1 in 84 persons in a population of 312 million). The costs in emergency response, medical bills, lost wages, lost earnings potential, damaged property, insurance premiums, etc. must be acknowledged. The costs in human suffering are incalculable.
Public transportation systems are never set up to earn a profit, but mass transit indisputably gives the most bang for the buck. By contrast, our highway system is scandalously wasteful and exorbitantly expensive.
The phasing of SMART is unfortunate but necessary. Rescinding the project would throw out the baby with the bathwater--like that infamous quotation from the Vietnam War, "We had to destroy the village in order to save it."
We're in an economic depression. A "stripped down initial operating segment" is at least a start. Reorganizing our priorities toward mass transit will save lives, limbs, open space, air quality, and money for ourselves and our children.
Elisabeth Thomas-Matej
3:54 pm on Thursday, August 18, 2011
[references for my footnoted comments--read the last segment of my reply first]
(1) Naumann RB et al. Incidence and Total Lifetime Costs of Motor Vehicle – Related Fatal and Nonfatal Injury by Road User Type, United States, 2005. Traffic Injury Prevention, 11:353–360, 2010.
(2) Kopl Halperin, "A Comparative Analysis of Six Methods for Calculating Travel Fatality Risk." Risk: Health, Safety, & Environment 4, 1993.
Jean A. Digulla
1:09 pm on Thursday, August 18, 2011
I work for a major Central Marin employer. My employer set up a carpool system, which serves Sonoma AND the East Bay at a cost of $100/month per rider (no cost to the employer), with employees driving. If an employee has to stay over, they are lent a car for the evening.
Typically, people ride mass transit when they have no choice, when it feels dumb not to, or when they have a commitment to the concept. The train -- without even including the cost of the subsidies -- is going to be much more costly to the riders, and without any flexibility. I have yet to meet a person who plans to ride it, and I ask all the time!
The reason we aren't providing free carpooling and the train has been pushed upon us is not because of any kind of logic -- it's development. If the train goes through, so will a bunch of developments, and we'll be right back where we started in terms of traffic and worse off in terms of other resources.
Everyone wants everyone else to ride the train. No one will.
Michael
1:57 pm on Friday, August 19, 2011
you hit on a very important point. Who exactly is going to ride this limited train? Those who work in SF have little benefit as they get dumped in San Rafael and then have to figure out a way to get to SF. Yes SMART is a developers dream. They would use this to gain approval for just what we do not need, more development along the 101 corridor. I too have yet to talk to anyone who indicates they would ride this train. We have so many uneducated (uneducated on the issues that is) people who do go out and vote based on soundbytes. SMART spent a lot of money on soundbytes. After multiple tries they finally succeeded in getting enough people to vote yes. I contend most had no idea what they were actually voting for. And the information provided at the time of the last vote was anything but accurate as we are now finding out thanks to better management of the project. There simply is no justification for moving forward to spend taxpayer money on a system that was approved based on false, inaccurate and misleading information. A private business would never just plow ahead with a project with these kinds of dramatic cost increases anxd changes. I suspect SMART if fearful of a new vote as so many more voters are now aware of the dramatic cost increases and stripped down service. If I were SMART I'd do the ssme thing they are doing by pushing as quickly as possibe to tie up taxpayer funds. But I am a taxpayer who must live in the reality of today's stresses financial conditions.